Sometimes, the most incredible breakthroughs start from a place of complete financial and emotional exhaustion. When your business is gone, cashflow has dried up, and the odds feel impossibly stacked against you, finding a way forward takes more than just a new strategy—it takes relentless faith and a willingness to step into the unknown.

In this Q&A, we sit down with a couple who lived exactly that reality. Ten years ago, facing the devastating loss of their transport business, they borrowed money from their parents just to learn about property options. They were hungry for a path that didn't rely on trading time for money, even when they were battling deep uncertainty.

Fast forward to today, and their reality looks drastically different. Through persistence, resourcefulness, and applying the exact strategies taught inside Conclave, they have completely rewritten their family's financial future.

In this interview, they share:

• How they transitioned from banking their first $17,000 to clearing $450,000 on a 7-lot Sydney subdivision.

• The way they overcame massive internal hurdles, including crippling self-doubt and navigating Mick's dyslexia.

• How they use the 7 Steps for Property Options framework to confidently structure deals and genuinely serve vendors.

• Their exciting next steps, from a multi-million-dollar pipeline to mobile home park collaborations and funding humanitarian projects.

If you are sitting on the fence about your own property journey or wondering what is truly possible when you commit to the process, their story is the ultimate proof that aligned action over time pays off. Dive into their incredible journey below.

Q: What was your situation before joining Conclave, and what motivated you to pursue property options and development?

Before joining Conclave, we had just lost our transport business and had no cashflow. It was an incredibly challenging season for us, both financially and emotionally. We were under real pressure and unsure how we were going to create stability for our family.

In fact, we borrowed money from our parents to attend the MRP Property Options Bootcamp 10 years ago. Despite how hard things felt, we knew we had to find another way forward. We were searching for something that didn’t rely on trading time for money and could genuinely create long-term security. Property options felt like a path worth committing to, even when the odds felt stacked against us.

Q: Can you walk us through a property option deal you’ve completed, from how you found it to where it’s at now?

One of the deals that really stands out involved seven adjoining lots in Sydney. The site was structured as a small-lot residential subdivision, creating 450m² lots.

That deal ultimately resulted in $450,000 being banked. For us, it was a powerful demonstration of what’s possible when the right strategy meets persistence, patience, and aligned action over time.

Q: Which specific Conclave strategies or frameworks did you apply to this deal?

We applied the residential subdivision strategies taught through MRP, particularly Mark’s 7 Steps for Property Options framework. Having a clear, proven process to follow gave us confidence and clarity at every stage of the deal, from initial conversations through to execution.

Q: What challenges did you face during the process, and how did you overcome them?

Our biggest challenges were internal. At times, I struggled with self-belief, and Mick, being dyslexic, finds reading and processing information difficult.

We had to learn how to discipline disappointment, keep the faith, and stay persistent and consistent in taking action, even when things didn’t go our way. At the time, we were also battling a lack of cashflow, but we were deeply hungry to change our situation.

This mindset, choosing persistence and resourcefulness over doubt, is something we’ve applied throughout our lives, and we brought it fully into the property space. By reframing doubt and committing to continued action, we were able to keep moving forward despite the challenges.

Q: What was the turning point where things started to click for you?

The real turning point was banking our first $17,000 from a four-lot residential subdivision.

When you have no cashflow, that amount of money feels enormous. It was a humble beginning, but it gave us belief. Not just belief that this worked for others we had seen walk the path before us, but belief that it was possible for our family too.

Q: What did you learn from this deal that you wouldn’t have learned without being in Conclave?

Without Conclave, we wouldn’t have known how to have these conversations at all. Prior to this, our only experience with property was owning an investment property.

Through Conclave, we learned how to run feasibilities, speak confidently with council, gather the right information, and structure deals correctly. Most importantly, we learned how to genuinely serve vendors, understanding what mattered most to them and helping them achieve the outcome they desired, while still creating a win for everyone involved.

Q: How has your confidence or approach to property development changed since completing Conclave?

Our confidence has grown enormously. We now trust ourselves and the process.

Over the years, we’ve built strong relationships and aligned everything we do with our highest values, genuinely taking care of people. As a result, we’re now blessed to receive multi-millions of dollars’ worth of referrals, without spending anything on advertising.

Q: What does the potential upside of your current deals look like?

The small-lot residential subdivision opportunities currently in our pipeline have the potential to generate multi-millions of dollars this year and next.

It’s incredibly exciting and deeply rewarding to see what’s possible after years of consistent effort and growth.

Q: What advice would you give to someone sitting on the fence about taking action in property development?

I’d invite them to ask themselves one simple question: What if?

What if this could work for you too? If you’re teachable, coachable, and prepared to take action with continued faith, you’ll be blessed in more ways than just financially.

Get clear on your vision and your why. And if not this path, then ask yourself honestly… what is the alternative?

Q: What’s next for you in your property journey?

We’re continuing to expand on what we’ve been building over the past decade, including collaborations to create mobile home parks.

We’re also excited to travel again to visit my family in Europe, move into our dream home on the East Coast beaches, and contribute to completing the orphanage we built, along with other humanitarian projects.

Alongside this, we’re mindset coaching other entrepreneurs to help them achieve the results they desire.

It’s an incredibly exciting time, and we’re deeply grateful for the wisdom, love, and support Mark and his team have given our family.